The Haynes seemed a lot better but still had lots of generic stuff which is basically recycled, one size fits all text and even diagrams. Really the factory service manual is the only way to go. I have both a Haynes and factory manual, I never use the Haynes. Get a factory service manual if you do any work on your car. It covered a decent range of models and years, but they were actually very similar.
Would they cover the same material concerning my 99 Civic. Ignite yourself, rotating slowly to ensure complete combustion. They aren't detailed enough for serious work. Once again, it tries to cover too much. Threw it out after a day.
Originally posted by: blahblah99 They both suck. The Haynes I have for my Ducs is next to worthless. Originally Posted By Walkure: Never used a Chilton. Web repair sites are good also. For example, they may describe a nine step process to changing the front disc brakes.
Ignite yourself, rotating slowly to ensure complete combustion. Are they really worth it? Jumping back-n-forth between them and making your own decisions on how to perform a task. Somewhat confusing to follow as some standard procedures are mentioned once and only once and instructions in other sections will refer you back or forward in the manual as part of the particular procedure you're trying to follow. Haynes are certainly better, not perfect, but better. Actually, the best work experiences I've had. So, you spend an hour figuring out how to remove the caliper. I also like the toyota layout better; it is much clearer.
That said, I use the Haynes more than the Chilton. The Chilton manuals were better back, pre-1985. The Haynes I have for the Miata is in between. Yes, that's right, they made one manual to cover 26 years of a car. It told me that removing the hub would make things easier.
He gave me the link but also stated I could do a search duh and find thousands of links. The reason it's broken down into many parts is so that you can find what you need, then click on it and it will take you right there. So there i am with the oil pan dangling down, because I thought i could slide it out the side, but i couldn't, and i've got three seriously rusted bolts holding the a pipe on which took me hours to remove. Originally Posted By Cheesebeast: They can both be real peaches at times. Here is the Free is a very good price. The newer Chilton manuals are just not as good with photos or descriptions. It stays on my bookshelves.
That is, shadetree mechanics who have been messing around with minor procedures and are looking to up their game. I find them very similar, too close to really tell apart. It's been okay for most of the stuff I've needed it for so far. No mention of where to find a horn relay in a Sunfire. If it's a bigger project, I get on the internet, research the project, and print it off. It looked legit, but was not what I was expecting. Beyond maintenance and repair, I'm just as interested in seeing how it all goes together and understanding the engineering.
If you want a total change crack the trans open! Totally new platform - new chassis, new engine, new everything. But it is amazing how much insight and technical information is available on forums like this one for the patient. Once again, it tries to cover too much. Replace gasket, install in reverse order. Since there are a few little areas that require some attention, I figured having a repair manual will be very helpful. Haynes books are written by documenting a complete tear down and rebuild of the car.